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may they be honoured and never forgotten .
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"May they be honored and never forgotten."I second that. How sad for their families, but at least they will remember them with honor and pride.
Tracy
Agreed 100%
I wish the best for their families and friends as well as those of the people of the areas affected.
mostly i'd say unhappy ones!
i look back at my life, and say it was my unhappy mother, who infected my family.
it was perfect for her.
In the case of myself, those already predisposed to mental illness.
Prophecor,
I agree and also have to say I notice how unfair the WT can be to many of those having emotional/menal handicaps (and maybe other handicaps, as well), expecting them to function perfectly and show no signs of their problems, always seeming happy, etc.. It's a shame.
censorship borg style.
somebody killed the pope's last poop thread just because someone else was offended when i mentioned that i think that he wasn't such a good guy.
if you think you might be offended by what's said in a thread then don't read it.
Maybe it was the thread title and the timing of it itself?
I'm no Catholic or JW, but I can't say I'd be happy to hear about Jaracz or whatever GB leader of the WT dying or the pope, even though I don't agree with either. I probably feel a little more sense of loss regarding the pope, mainly because he's so well-known to the world and has at least seemingly tried to make some differences that were respectable over time -- at least from what I've heard, admitting I don't keep up with a lot of catholicism-related news.
I'd rather see the death of the WT, for example, than members/leaders of the WT; but I can respect if others have been personally hurt and feel a stronger sense of hatred for either leaders of the WT or catholic church...
numerous greek and biblical scholars have declared that the nwt is a poor and biased translation.. the late dr. walter martin observed that of the anonymous seven-member translation committee at least five had no training in greek: "these books possess a veneer of scholarship unrivaled for its daring and boldness in a field that all informed scholars know jehovah's witnesses are almost totally unprepared to venture into.
as a matter of fact, the authors have been able to uncover partially a carefully guarded watchtower secret; the names of five of the member of the new world translation committee.
not one of these five people has any training in greek...(or hebrew).. dr. julius mantey a leading greek scholar in the world stated: "i have never read any new testament so badly translated as the kingdom interlinear translation of the greek scriptures.
"And to think that they spin it as if they restored what others had distorted. Scary!"
So they feel distorting the distortion resolves any distortion... or something~! =D
okay, it seems it's high time we had another thread like this!.
for serious reading, i have exceptions to the rulers by amy goodman (goes great with fahrenheit 911!
)the curse of adam by bryan skyles (i think) (it predicts the extinction of males.
Hey Gretchen,
So funny, I just recently picked up the Stephen Donaldson series of Thomas Covenent the Unbeliever and am reading them again after 25 years. I have re-read the Dune series a few times. Along with that I'm reading Light, Coming Back by Ann Wadsworth, Women's Rituals by Barbara Walker, and The Best Short Stories of Leslea Newman.Nothing like a good book!
Sherry
Sweet~! I became a member of a SRD dedication forum that's pretty cool:
http://kevinswatch.ihugny.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=c3f056f19d3f2c3b16269420a06f011f
Sometimes my links don't work without copying and pasting them, though...
If you get bored, have a glance (though it seems you have so much to read you couldn't get bored~!).
i have recently been blessed with my wife (currently df'd jw) starting to look into some things, and she's read the book "questions for jehovah's witnesses" by the cetners.
she still feels she needs to see something she feels is more reliable for dates such as the 1925 patriarchs, etc, and when i was doing research, i noticed the best quotes to show seem to be from books such as the millions now living will never die and the way to paradise, but they're really old, and i couldn't find any available on e-bay or as reprints on cds on my search.
does anybody know a way to get ahold of these books?
Leonard, has your wife read Crisis Of Conscience? I just finished it and should you want it, I can mail it to you.
Thanks fairchild~! I may PM you about it, though if I can find one already in my area I might just get it. The only JW books I've found have been at a Christian bookstore that doesn't carry that one, though. I have Reasoning from the Scriptures with JW's and I think one by Ronald Bowman, though I'm not sure that's the author.
Thanks again, and also to Flash and Garybuss~!
what's the thing that really gets your goat?
for me it's god allowing incest as a means of filling the earth.
i mean, if it was good enough for them.....
What's the thing that really gets your goat? For me it's God allowing incest as a means of filling the earth. I mean, if it was good enough for them.....
I may actually have to look up the scripture relating to Lot, but I don't know that just because things happened in the Bible means that everything that happened was something God was telling people to do. Other than that, the situation was a very long time ago. I don't know when the law came about concerning incest, but in the earliest stages of Bible history, i.e. starting off with Adam and Eve, some incest was absolutely necessary up to a point.
I may be mistaken but think I remember reading that gene pools have gotten more polluted over a long period of time and may have been pure enough back then to avoid posing so much of a major problem re birth defects, etc... Just my thoughts, though admittedly I may not have the science or exact context down and may change my view in light of more thorough info.
okay, it seems it's high time we had another thread like this!.
for serious reading, i have exceptions to the rulers by amy goodman (goes great with fahrenheit 911!
)the curse of adam by bryan skyles (i think) (it predicts the extinction of males.
Too busy with school and work to read anything much other than some posts on this and another forum, but when I get time again, I'm going to get back into:
the Runes of the Earth by Stephen R. Donaldson.
I'm not sure this will match his past works of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, but being the 3rd trilogy of one of the best, IMO, fantasy epics, I'm definitely going to give it a go~!
... what can i say, except, okay, i am being needy, but what's wrong with that???
hahahaha j/k.
hell, can't we i just be real for a change?.
Hey~! Whatcha' depressed about?
Best wishes your way~!
well, it has been almost three years since i silently and dramatically vanished from the world of the watchtower.
moving an hour away from my congregation's territory and not answering phone calls was all i needed to avoid having to wear the letter "a" on my chest.
but, that could all change this saturday.
Ugh, I can't imagine attending a JW gathering, to be honest. If it were me, I'd probably just say goodbye the day after the going away party or something. Good luck!
Since I'm the non-JW in my marriage, I can only say it sounds about like you guys know exactly what the limits of what an elder can do at a party would be, but I'm also wondering if Logansrun has a lot potentially at stake if he gets more notice and possibly asked to come before a committee or something (Awesome moniker BTW! Now we need Zardoz and Soylent Green lol~!).
Just from my understanding, if there'd be a lot to lose by getting DF'd, I might avoid the situation, myself, but if it's not like you feel your entire family will reject you all the way, then maybe it'd seem more worth going... either way, best wishes, and hope you have fun if you go~!
